Zero.
Read a chapter of a book while sitting at Barnes & Noble. Went from what I thought was deeply spiritual to atheist in one hour.
It was absolutely the best and most freeing experience of my life.
Isle of Lewis
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From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?
by Hidden-Window inas we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.
i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.
what about you?.
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Why are the Jesus people so obsessed with spreading their message?
by fulltimestudent inare they fearful that they are mistaken, so they must argue with everyone, and try to prove all otehr religions wrong, but their's right?.
i'm not talking about the well-known jw persistence, in which we all once shared.. i'm talking about nearly all brands of christianity, the witnesses and their other branded counterparts.
here are two incidents to demonstrate.. a week or so back, i read in a chinese newspaper of a complaint by two tibetan buddhist women in the city of xining, qinghai province, in western china.
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Because common sense reality does not validate their supernatural claims & their desire to be special.
So the only place to get that validation is from the agreement of others.
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Why Do Atheists Struggle So Much Against God Who Supposedly Doesn't Exist?
by Perry inan athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.
this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .
as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?
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"Its just a game. Its a form of mental illness." - George Carlin
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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?
by CrytoJesus inchristians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
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Pretending to be someone's friend in hopes of tricking them into listening to your religious opinion is manipulative & sleazy.
If you have a valid point you wish to share, speak honestly and directly.
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My problem with Original Sin
by leftbelow ini found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.
your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.
it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.
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Original Sin is just another concept of spirituality that teaches humans are evil.
You're easier to control if you reject your own mind and if you consider your own humanity a sin.
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How to fade intelligently ?
by TheFadingAlbatros inhow to fade intelligently ?
tell me your secret and then i will tell you in due time my secret.
it's important when we have to face a manipulative cult with some members of our family trapped inside, yes it is important to know how to fade intelligently so that our jw family members are not going to shun us.
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Isle of Lewis
1) Start missing meetings.
2) Claim health problems & depression are the reason.
3) Never express your doubts or true feelings to a JW (they dont care and it wil make you a target).
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My problem with Original Sin
by leftbelow ini found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.
your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.
it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.
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Isle of Lewis
John Galt's Speech is what woke me up.
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Get Out. Get Away. Free Yourself. This is a Dangerous Cult. Nobody can help you but yourself.
by Jehovanomics inyou can measure the degree of passive aggressive control the jw's have over you by the degree to which you feel guilty when you stand up for yourself.
it's a multi billion dollar real estate corporation.
it's all about the money.
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Isle of Lewis
You can measure the degree of passive aggressive control the JW's have over you BY THE DEGREE TO WHICH YOU FEEL GUILTY when you stand up for YOURSELF.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Psycopaths?
by stuckinarut2 ini have been thinking that jws display an organizationally officially promoted form of thinking that makes them psycopaths!.
what i mean is, any person who enjoyed reading and leaning about past gruesome deaths, or who justified such things as being normal or acceptable would be deemed to be dangerous to society...a psychopath.
(by this i am refferring to the content of the bible of course).
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Most of the rank & file may not be true born sociopaths, but they lack empathy and that is enough.
Does it really matter if its detachment disorder, moral exclusion, or a sociopath? Its harmful and should be avoided.
It's safer and healthier to avoid anyone who demonstrates a lack of basic humanity.
In the last Hall I attended, I met nicest, sweetest lady you could imagine. Then I found out she had shunned her teenage son when he had doubts about the religion, he committed suicide shortly afterward. He wasn’t mentally ill, just honest, intelligent, and questioning. She didn’t even attend his funeral and the congregation proudly supported that decision. That is unnatural & cruel. I want no part of any group where that thinking is acceptable & encouraged.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Psycopaths?
by stuckinarut2 ini have been thinking that jws display an organizationally officially promoted form of thinking that makes them psycopaths!.
what i mean is, any person who enjoyed reading and leaning about past gruesome deaths, or who justified such things as being normal or acceptable would be deemed to be dangerous to society...a psychopath.
(by this i am refferring to the content of the bible of course).
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If an individual chooses to harm or ignore the welfare of others, that person lacks empathy and a conscience. Whatever their official diagnosis, they're an unhealthy person.
Their abusive behavior is not excused by their religion, their parents, or the rules they follow. To care or not care is a personal choice we all make. We are all personally responsible for whatever choice we have made.
Each elder actively chooses for himself to support the molesting of children. Each elder that makes that choice lacks empathy, the primary trait of a sociopath.